I must say that it may be time to shut this whole Adelaide Hammers down as people obviously are not interested.

We send out emails to well over forty people and are lucky to get responses from 4,now although my life pretty well revolves around all things Westham i too am very dissillusioned at our PITIFUL turnout we have asked for feedback and get NONE and all of a sudden read a post like that from Michael it does just reinforce that perhaps we are not ready for an Adelaide Hammers or we are just not the right people to have set it up.

We have tried SHORT notice and LONG notice and nothing works,people say they live down south ,well Brissy have people who travel from the Gold Coast (just as far away as Noarlunga and Gawler).

Although i donot quite understand your comment Michael as i am 45 and also get very tired but hey you get that.Enough said i do honestly believe that the biggest problem that we face is that very few from Adelaide post on this site (and yes we have sent it out to all) where as majority of the Brissy Hammers do.

Sorry if you are all offended with these posts but for TWO seasons now we have tried and FAILED and think maybe we are DEFEATED.

Just like the WESTHAM season i now feel GUTTED again.

MIchael you were ONE of the people when we first got started that was 100% for this all to happen and then you say it is one of your LOWEST priorities well that is fine but it again just says that we are not winning the battle here in Adelaide.Yes we would all LOVE to see more people out but how do i achieve this (seend a bus for them all),you complain but cannot or donot give us some ideas of how to make it work.

Once again ive had my say and will do some serios soul searching and post in the next couple of days what i believe will be in the best INTERESTS of ALL.

Cheers Paul
Adelaide Hammers.

Okay, maybe I worded my post a bit wrong. Was in a bit of a rush posting it, but still wanted to get it up.

Of course I enjoy coming to watch the matches with you Paul and Kaye, and if I had a choice of watching it at home alone or coming out to watch it with you guys, of course I would choose to come out and watch it with you guys.

I guess I can't really make an coherent judgement at the moment just because it's been so long since we've had a Saturday match where something could be organised (and take this into account with everything I'm writing now)

Using the words Lowest Priorities was a mistake. I probably support the club now more than ever, but when I first heard about the Aus Hammers, I pictured (and may have got the impression from Paul and Kaye) that there would usually be about 10 or so people there. It's a catch 22, but the problem is that there isn't enough people, and because there aren't more people, it detracts from me going.

I remember a game last year (when we lost 2-0 to Everton I think, when Johnson chipped Green) and I think there were about 10 or so people there at the Strathmore. I really enjoyed that. But (and don't take this personally) when there are just the 2 of you there, of course it's good, but it's just not as good as it could be.

I'd like to think that the fact I'm only 19 can allow for some leeway on my part, as with my working hours the only real time I get to spend with friends is on a Saturday night. For the most part we are in the city 50% of the time, but normally we're at another pub or a club, and I don't feel right about ditching them to watch a football match (Yes, I know it's catching up with you guys, but in essence, it really is just watching the game)

Also, by 1:30 (usual starting time) I've usually had quite a few, and not only is time a bit hazy, but I'm well entertained by the city's nightlife.

Again, don't think this is not because I don't value what you are trying to do, or as some under-valuing of our friendship, it's just that if I'm in the city at 1:30am, after having a few, I would rather stay in the club I am in than leave, walk probably 10-15 minutes, only to be once again disappointed by the turnout (and probably by the result). Usually though, if we are playing, I will make an appearance just to see who's there.

I was at the Rosemont when the Mersey-side derby was on this year (Was the early game I think) and the atmosphere there was great. Liverpool fans were chanting, Everton fans were chanting, and I actually felt I was in an English Pub. I also met a friend from Gawler in there the morning Tottenham played that 4-4 with Arsenal, and although there were only about 10 gooners and yids there, but it was a good atmosphere.

I know all the effort you have put in, and I do try to respond to your e-mails letting you know when I can and can't make it.

I am only speaking for myself here, but I do not know other peoples reasons/excuses for not coming. I would like to think that I'm a bit of an exception to the norm, considering I am the youngest one by about 20-odd years, but as for the others, you'd have to ask them.


Oh and Kaye, I don't watch The Bill any more, but 1 thing I do remember from it (and whenever I see my parents watching it) the lower officers always say "with all due respect" and it reminded me of a 3AW segment where people would ring up and say "with all due respect" to Caroline Wilson and then absolutely berate her. I haven't watched The Bill for a good 3 years, and would rather watch a Spuds game than it, because I found it extremely boring and repetitive.

I hope I haven't tarnished our friendship through this, but I honestly cannot think of anything more that you can do except for physically ringing the people on "the list" and asking them if they want to be removed