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Jormatom
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Post subject:  Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:22 pm |
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Davros wrote: It may have been exciting and generally our seasons are. But I would rather have this semi-boring end to the season than be relegated in exciting fashion.
I don't want to be relegated either, regardless of how exiting it might be.
I don't want another season like this one though.
What Beex and I are saying, is that this might be as good as it gets with Curbs at the helm.
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beex
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:38 pm |
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Jormatom wrote: Davros wrote: It may have been exciting and generally our seasons are. But I would rather have this semi-boring end to the season than be relegated in exciting fashion.
I don't want to be relegated either, regardless of how exiting it might be. I don't want another season like this one though. What Beex and I are saying, is that this might be as good as it gets with Curbs at the helm.
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Deano
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:04 pm |
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i think curbs needs a nice pat on the back and a big thank you for saving us and consolidating...
but were looking to move on
btw bowyer is fuckin choice!
ethers is amazing when fit!
10? thats amazing with the injuries...
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Jormatom
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:32 am |
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Deano wrote: i think curbs needs a nice pat on the back and a big thank you for saving us and consolidating...
but were looking to move on
Nicely put Deano.
We're not saying "hang the bastard". He has done his best and that is all we can ask of him. But it's time to move on.
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Westham5096
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:52 pm |
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How about we all wait and see how he does with a FULL SQUAD at his disposal,you are all saying that he done well to keep us up but because we are only mid table (which most wanted iafter 2006/07) he should move aside.Well i think he DESERVES the chance for at least the start of 2008/09.
I know many on here donot AGREE but tuff titties im one for us showing a bit of loyalty to CURBS. 
Ok guys give it to me im ready. 
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Davros
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:08 pm |
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Westham5096 wrote: How about we all wait and see how he does with a FULL SQUAD at his disposal,you are all saying that he done well to keep us up but because we are only mid table (which most wanted iafter 2006/07) he should move aside.Well i think he DESERVES the chance for at least the start of 2008/09.
I agree
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beex
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:12 pm |
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Davros wrote: Westham5096 wrote: How about we all wait and see how he does with a FULL SQUAD at his disposal,you are all saying that he done well to keep us up but because we are only mid table (which most wanted iafter 2006/07) he should move aside.Well i think he DESERVES the chance for at least the start of 2008/09.
I agree For godsakes, sorry guys but I must have said this at least a zillion times now, it's got nothing to do with the position in the table. It is the way we are playing under Curbs. I'm not saying because we are mid table he should step aside, I'm saying he should step aside cos we are playing SHITE, BORING, UNINSPIRED, TACTICALLY CLUELESS, DEFENSIVELY BASED FOOTBALL. That's it, in a nutshell. I am serious (but you won't believe me) but if we were in the UEFA spots or higher playing this style of football my opinion would not change.
Why does he have a god given right to be given another chance? He's failed to produce quality football, win or lose and he will continue to do so, injuries or no injuries. If he stays, I guarantee that most of those injured players will be out again by Xmas.
Get him out FFS, he's been here too long in my opinion.
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beex
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:42 am |
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Jormatom wrote:
Thanks Jorm for all the adulation but I just want Curbs Out.
I got a sneaky suspicion that it ain't gonna happen tho' and in typical West Ham style we'll wait until Xmas when we're in the shite to do something about it.
I've always said that I've always hoped I'm wrong on this. If Curbs could turn things around and get us playing the West Ham way then I'd be happy. Nothing against the bloke. Decent, honest geezer, West Ham boy, etc but I've seen enough of this style of play this season and another year of this, consolidation or no consolidation would make me seriously depressed as a West Ham fan.
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Davros
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:48 am |
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beex wrote: Davros wrote: Westham5096 wrote: How about we all wait and see how he does with a FULL SQUAD at his disposal,you are all saying that he done well to keep us up but because we are only mid table (which most wanted iafter 2006/07) he should move aside.Well i think he DESERVES the chance for at least the start of 2008/09.
I agree For godsakes, sorry guys but I must have said this at least a zillion times now, it's got nothing to do with the position in the table. It is the way we are playing under Curbs. I'm not saying because we are mid table he should step aside, I'm saying he should step aside cos we are playing SHITE, BORING, UNINSPIRED, TACTICALLY CLUELESS, DEFENSIVELY BASED FOOTBALL. That's it, in a nutshell. I am serious (but you won't believe me) but if we were in the UEFA spots or higher playing this style of football my opinion would not change. Why does he have a god given right to be given another chance? He's failed to produce quality football, win or lose and he will continue to do so, injuries or no injuries. If he stays, I guarantee that most of those injured players will be out again by Xmas. Get him out FFS, he's been here too long in my opinion. I understand you want him out because of the way we are playing under him. However, if he had a full squad to choose from would we be playing the same way? I don't think so. We have had to play differently to those that are available to get results. And in this he has done well.
If we had an effective midfield available the whole time, we would be playing in crisply along the ground as I believe how Neill tries to play from the back. It is the constantly changing midfield and people having to play out of position which has caused a different style of play in several games.
I think curbs deserves a chance to show us style and results with a full squad.
You can't blame him for the injuries. Are you saying Beexie that with a new manager, those injured players won't be injured by Xmas but under Curbs they will? How so?
Also, I would have thought that if we were playing the 'West Ham' way under any manager and losing, that you would NOT be happy.
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beex
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:42 pm |
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Davros wrote: If we had an effective midfield available the whole time, we would be playing in crisply along the ground as I believe how Neill tries to play from the back. It is the constantly changing midfield and people having to play out of position which has caused a different style of play in several games.
Agreed, any constantly changing team, unless you're one of the top 4 and they're all world class squad players, will find it hard to maintain a rhythm to their game BUT even so I can't really see any real tactics going on, maybe that's the players also but surely they get their orders from Curbs. Also ask any Charlton fan and they'll tell you that the tactics were pretty much boot it up to Darren Bent and hope he scores, sound familiar?
I think curbs deserves a chance to show us style and results with a full squad.
Again, using the Charlton example, all he did was promise much and bottled it. They had rotten injuries too, complained about bad tactics and long ball style. I'm afraid that even with a full fit squad we won't see much difference.
They were also famous for their post xmas slump.
You can't blame him for the injuries.
I don't
Are you saying Beexie that with a new manager, those injured players won't be injured by Xmas but under Curbs they will? How so?
I can't say that for certain of course, but something is out of whack with our training, fitness and recovery rate. Apparently there are changes happening in this dept and if it makes things better, then great
Also, I would have thought that if we were playing the 'West Ham' way under any manager and losing, that you would NOT be happy.
Without being rude, that's really stating the bleeding obvious. I want to win every game and if Curbs stays, like I've said before I'll support him cos he's our manager. Doesn't mean I have to like what his tactics are or how he manages, but what choice do I have?
The writing is on the wall on what sort of club we could become under Curbs and I'm unhappy about it. I know we can't always play open, fluent football like Le'Arse, Man Yoo, Chelski and The Crims but we used to play entertaining football. Yeah, we won some and lost some but god some of it was good to watch. Remember the Cup Final against Liverpool?Jesus, we're so far away from that right now and that's only 2 seasons ago.
I dunno who the saviour is but this club NEEDS and DESERVES a new manager.
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Westham5096
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:16 pm |
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Beex i really dont want to keep going on about this,so hopefully in a finally note it just amazes me that the VAST MAJORITY used to call Harry the Mesiah and MOST were upset when he left but what did he EVER achieve at The Hammers.Now before you go me im not saying Harry is not a good manager because he is but in all of the time of his reign i heard VERY LITTLE criticism of midtable medicracy (which we mostly were or fighting relegation).
It is a hard situation all around as ALL of us just want to see our BELOVED HAMMERS be SUCCESSSFUL and for me this year that has been achieved.
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beex
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:53 pm |
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Westham5096 wrote: Beex i really dont want to keep going on about this,so hopefully in a finally note it just amazes me that the VAST MAJORITY used to call Harry the Mesiah and MOST were upset when he left but what did he EVER achieve at The Hammers.Now before you go me im not saying Harry is not a good manager because he is but in all of the time of his reign i heard VERY LITTLE criticism of midtable medicracy (which we mostly were or fighting relegation). It is a hard situation all around as ALL of us just want to see our BELOVED HAMMERS be SUCCESSSFUL and for me this year that has been achieved. Mate, I'm sick to death of the topic too, but this is a forum and I think we should all be able to express ourselves however we want within the rules. If we step outside of them, then Dave, Norven or WhuBris can ask us to leave or ban us. Please don't ask me to shut up (cos that's what "on hopefully a final note" means, really) cos I wouldn't dream of doing that to you or anyone else here.
In my opinion, Harry was a loveable rogue, like your favorite wicked uncle BUT we played some great football under him and he discovered and nutured some great talent. We had good and bad times under him but mostly the football was good. I'm not a Harry advocate by the way but I think he is a better manager than Curbs.
Why don't we just agree to disagree.
I'm not here to hurt anyone's feelings mate, in the words of the great Sister Sledge, WE ARE FAMILY! and sometimes families argue and disagree, right?
I respect your's and everyone elses views on this forum, please respect mine. We don't have to agree but we should be able to express differing opinions. 
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Westham5096
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:10 pm |
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Ah no sorry mate thats not what im saying at all i fully respect your opinion and beliefs, if i have put it wrong i sincerely apologise.
Its certainly the great thing about this forum we can ALL EXPRESS our opinions (even when they are wrong  sorry only kidding).
No hurt feelings here mate and let the debate continue.
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beex
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:22 pm |
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Westham5096 wrote: Ah no sorry mate thats not what im saying at all i fully respect your opinion and beliefs, if i have put it wrong i sincerely apologise. Its certainly the great thing about this forum we can ALL EXPRESS our opinions (even when they are wrong sorry only kidding). No hurt feelings here mate and let the debate continue. No probs & no hard feelings, and I don't think you're wrong at all (just kidding) We all care about the club and that's what really matters in the end
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